Nice argument, however I've already drawn you as a masturbator and me as an abstainer.

This meme features a vintage line art illustration originally from 19th/early 20th century anti-masturbation pseudoscience propaganda, showing two side-by-side comparison sets of men. The top row compares a haggard, slouching, disheveled 16-year-old labeled as a masturbator on the left, with a confident, well-groomed, upright 21-year-old labeled as an abstainer on the right. The bottom row compares a severely hunched, decrepit, cane-using 50-year-old labeled as a masturbator on the left, with a healthy, upright, well-kept 70-year-old labeled as an abstainer on the right. The joke associated with this illustration is a bad-faith argument retort: the poster claims they have won the argument by arbitrarily framing their opponent as the unhealthy masturbator and themself as the virtuous abstainer, ignoring all actual points made in the debate.

Dialogue

At 16
At 21
16-year-old masturbator, left; 21-year-old abstainer, right.
At 50
At 70
50-year-old masturbator, left; 70-year-old abstainer, right.

Overview

This meme features a vintage line art illustration originally from 19th/early 20th century anti-masturbation pseudoscience propaganda, showing two side-by-side comparison sets of men. The top row compares a haggard, slouching, disheveled 16-year-old labeled as a masturbator on the left, with a confident, well-groomed, upright 21-year-old labeled as an abstainer on the right. The bottom row compares a severely hunched, decrepit, cane-using 50-year-old labeled as a masturbator on the left, with a healthy, upright, well-kept 70-year-old labeled as an abstainer on the right. The joke associated with this illustration is a bad-faith argument retort: the poster claims they have won the argument by arbitrarily framing their opponent as the unhealthy masturbator and themself as the virtuous abstainer, ignoring all actual points made in the debate.

Origin notes

This meme was sourced from an RSS feed of the Reddit r/Meme subreddit, with the associated title referencing the common joke use of this vintage illustration. The underlying artwork originates from debunked historical anti-masturbation propaganda that falsely claimed masturbation caused severe physical and mental decline. This format became a popular internet meme used as a sarcastic response to arguments the poster does not wish to engage with seriously.

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